I freely concede that SF/F fandom is heavily dominated by people from the looney left. But books don't get published to please them. (Good thing--they cannot be pleased.) Publishers publish the books they think will sell, and that's going to be based on what they think the market is like.
Here, I think we've run into an important area of disagreement -- because people like me don't think publishers are simply reacting to the existing market. And I think we have good reasons for this belief. All the data I've seen regarding market trends in publishing reveal that traditional houses are losing readers to the independents. This is especially true in SF and romance, which have both positively exploded on Amazon. If publishers actually were putting out books that are attractive to the wider reading audience, I don't think this would be happening. I don't think those readers would feel the need to seek out that unknown self-published author's space fantasy instead of what's being published by Tor.
Now, I'll grant that some traditional publishers might think they're responding to market forces. That's entirely possible. But that doesn't mean they truly are. Publishers are, in my view, an incredibly insular and homogeneous group. Based on my observations, they're overwhelmingly urban, affluent, and similarly educated. (And what the hell: let's throw in white and female too.) The chances that they have their fingers on the pulse of the general public are pretty slim. Indeed, I think what they're hearing from their friends over drinks at an NYC restaurant is drastically skewing their estimation of what we, the readers, truly want -- and is therefore leading to a profound over-representation of some worldviews and lifestyles and a profound under-representation of others.
Additionally: contrary to your claim that books aren't getting published to appease political radicals, it seems clear that people from the loony left are having a disproportionate - and toxic - impact on what comes out of traditional houses. Maybe (?) social justice warriors aren't having much of an impact on what does get published -- but they're certainly having an impact on what doesn't. Most publishers have fallen for the sensitivity reader grift, for example, which allows these self-appointed political commissars enormous power to quash writers' artistic expression. (I'm violently opposed to the concept of official sensitivity readers. Authors have a responsibility to do their research, obviously, but nobody has the right to speak for entire groups of people regarding what is or isn't offensive. And besides, making such concessions doesn't seem to work anyway; recently, an SF mag ran a short story tackling trans themes by sensitivity readers and yet still got slammed once that story hit print. As you say, you can't please these people.) And these self-same publishers have frequently kowtowed to Twitter activists by yanking books from their schedules for reasons that are generally facile. A reviewer on Goodreads with poor reading comprehension skills and a political ax to grind can - and has - wreaked havoc for many a well-meaning author. This is a terrible state of affairs -- and another reason why I'm more skeptical in re: traditional publishing's supposed adherence to reader demand.
I'm also not trying to say that all conservatives or all Christians have the same opinions. But if half of potential conservative readers reject SF/F because of global warming, and half reject it because of the Second Coming, and half reject it because they don't want to read about changes, then (assuming statistical independence) you've lost almost 90% of your base group.
I think you're overestimating how many in the base group would be bounced out of SF by those things. I mean, yeah: my late grandmother was a Catholic conservative who thought SF was just silly and/or possibly demonic. But my late father - also a Catholic conservative - adored SF and left behind a large library of SF to prove it. And my brother and I - Catholic and conservative just like Dad - follow in our father's footsteps, not grandma's. I think the further down the generational chain you go, the smaller and smaller the group you're talking about becomes. And as for statistical independence -- no, I think those three things are strongly correlated. And that means, again, the group you're talking about probably represents a minority of all people who identify as conservative.
And here's one other question: why does global warming have to be a defining feature of SF? It's an important issue, sure (like I said, I'm basically a crunchy con), but aren't there a thousand other things SF can and should explore? Does every work of SF have to contain global warming themes and therefore turn off that tiny subset who can't tolerate encountering them? Shouldn't SF address a diversity of topics instead of hammering relentlessly on one?
Are most conservatives just too serious for the genre today--regardless of the political content?
Eh. A minority of them are. (See also: my grandma.) And whenever I've encountered them, I've always chided them for their humorlessness. But again, I would caution against using your personal experience with your religious Southern relatives as a judge because many, many folks - including yours truly - have had entirely different lived experiences. I'm connected via several online social media groups to hundreds of self-identified righties who can't get enough of SF so long as it's more in-line with their preferences. And if you don't believe my self report, well -- the success of "Kindle Unlimited book factories" like Chris Kennedy Publishing also attests to these fans' real hunger for the genre. (CKP doesn't intentionally cater to cons, mind you, but because their books lean toward action and mil-SF, their audience does take on a reddish hue just by accident.) Discounting or minimizing these fans' existence because, to progressives, they're politically unpalatable is, I think, a huge mistake.
And now to your final question:
I think some concrete examples might make it easier to talk about. Do you have a few books in mind with elements that illustrate the problem?
One example that was brought up recently in one of my groups was Robert J. Sawyer's Neanderthal Parallax trilogy. As the writer of the post complained:
This series just ticks every box on the SFWA list doesn't it?And yeah, I have to admit these were all reasons why I personally bounced out of these books too. The bias of the author was so overwhelming that it completely overshadowed the story. On the other hand, as I mentioned in the last post, I don't see a lot of people in my circles bouncing off Heinlein whenever he presupposes that Earth's resources will surely be taxed by massive overpopulation. Perhaps that's because Heinlein doesn't alienate conservatives with all of his predictions. Maybe his works have more balance.
1. Males are bad and the root cause of everything
2. Eugenics is awesome
3. Pansexuality is great and the nuclear family is bad
4. Religion is a hallucination caused by a correctable mutation in the human brain
5. Communism is awesome
6. Total government monitoring of every moment of your life is necessary for freedom
7. The planet's environment has been destroyed irreparably by mankind's greed
8. Capitalism is the root of evil
9. Guns are bad
10. Agrarian society is evil
Anyhoo, that's my $0.02,
Part of the problem is that trad publishing relied on (what Sarah Hoyt calls) the push model for a very long time. That is, they controlled what got promoted, what got into book stores, and thus what got sold. They were the final arbitrator of market taste.
ReplyDeleteThey still believe they are in the taste dictating business. The new Amazon fueled book publishing world has robbed them of that power, but they haven't realized that yet. With the current crisis taking away their one advantage (the ability to move vast amounts of paper from one point to another), it may be too late for them.
The sad part is that much of organized fandom wants to join them in their delusions. They too believe they are the final judges of what is and what is not "true" literary science fiction. They too want us to read only what is "good" for us. No thanks folks, I'm too old to be dictated to by a bunch of fascist posers.
As to your comparison between Heinlein and Sawyer, it is spot on. I'll only add that as preachy as Heinlein could get (and as a long time fan, I admit he could get pretty damn preachy), he never lost the ability to be entertaining. Readers put up with sermon because they knew he'd give them some fun along the way.
You know, I actually read "Hominids," the first book in the Neanderthal Parallax trilogy, and I even wrote a one-star review of it on Amazon. It was published 17 years ago, though, so I'm not sure it represents the present state of publishing. “Hominids” had the more serious problem that it was poorly written; I'm surprised it got published at all.
ReplyDeleteI've heard a lot of conservatives object to N.K. Jemisin's "Fifth Season" novel, but I can't for the life of me figure out why. I can understand people not liking the author, but I think (naively perhaps) that people should read and enjoy (or not) stories without reference to the people who write them. Anyway, do you understand the problem people have with what seemed to me to be one of the best SF/F books I'd read in a while? (And the author has attacked me personally on Twitter, so I've certainly got no axe to grind for her.)
When I worked at Amazon, I worked closely with the books team, and during that time, I acquired a strong dislike for the publishing companies, largely because it was clear that they had a rather short-sighted strategy of doing whatever they could to screw money out of their customers. (And, in the process, created work for me and my team.) As a result, it's hard for me to imagine them doing anything on the basis of principle because I firmly don't believe they have any principles, other than making money in the short term.
It's certainly true that the big boom in Kindle Unlimited sales has been a big surprise. I looked around to try to find current numbers on the split between traditional/independent and print vs. ebooks, but I can't find anything newer than two or three years ago. I found an article on Vox about how traditional publishing charges so much for e-books that they've made self-published books look a lot more attractive. I found another post (I don't want to put too many links in here) that said 90% of the money in publishing goes to print books, not ebooks. (I can't find that by genre, though.)
Anyway, I think the independent books are still a niche, and I think people have gone there as much because of price as anything else. But I'd be open to reading an analysis to the contrary, provided it was about measuring numbers and not just offering opinion.
As far as climate change goes, any story set 30-100 years from now pretty much can't avoid talking about the impact of rising sea levels, even if that's not the central concern of the story. That said, I'll concede that some of these stories exaggerate the impacts and shorten the timelines shamelessly.
I was very sad to see the excellent "I Sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter" short story withdrawn by the author after a particularly vicious round of attacks--mostly from straight people who admitted they never actually read the story. And who never apologized after the fact. The phenomenon of "woke scolds" organizing attacks on people for voicing forbidden opinions is a serious one, but it's not confined to the SF world. I think this is mostly a problem of people needing time to get a feel for how to react to social media. At the moment, there's a tendency to give it way too much credence, but I think that's changing.
So what would be an example of a conservative SF novel that one could hold up to something like "Fifth Season?" Something well-written and interesting that didn't push the wrong buttons?
I don't have a problem with books by authors I don't personally like. For instance, though I think John Scalzi is a bit of an ass, I found Redshirts to be very entertaining. On the other hand, while I'm quite the Heinlein fan, I found his last books to be a bit unreadable.
DeleteThat's all to let you know that my feelings about The Fifth Season are based on the book I read and not on how I feel about Jemisin. 748 I found the prolog to be depressing as hell and the second person thing a chore to get through. It was like playing an old style text adventure without having any control over what happens. So I honestly didn't find the book entertaining in the least.
But that's me. If you liked the book, more power to you. I don't have to like the same things you like, and you don't have to like what I like. That our tasted are different doesn't make either one of us vile, corrupt, or stupid.
I've noticed a lot of people have trouble with second-person narration and with present-tense narration. They bother me to the extent that I think they're gimmicks, but they don't interfere with my suspension of disbelief at all. Once I'm a few paragraphs into the story, I quit noticing the person and tense of the narration.
DeleteHowever, I read a story written in first-person plural a few months ago, and that I was never able to get used to.
I agree entirely that different people have different tastes, and you (or anyone else) aren't a bad person just for liking things I don't (or vice versa). Booksellers, however, do care about how many potential readers a book has, and so if your tastes are only shared by a small minority, you shouldn't expect to see the big publishers produce a lot of content for you.
On the other hand, if the big publishers are way off-base, then you'd expect one of the niche publishers to cash in big. In the particular case of fiction for conservatives, Baen certainly has a reputation for catering to that market, and it's enough business to keep them going, but they're only 10% of the traditional publishing market. If there really is a great underserved market for conservative SF, why isn't Baen bigger than Tor?
On the other hand, if it's just economics, then why is anyone upset about it?
I really don't think it is a matter of economics. The market for non-woke SF is neither non-existent not negligible. A number of indie authors write and sell such work, and some in numbers that would rival many Tor authors. Even in trad publishing, you have guys like Larry Correia and Jim Butcher outselling writers like Jemisin on a regular basis. So ignoring such a market is not being done as a straight business decision.
DeletePublishers are humans, and humans make decisions for a lot of reasons, not all of them rational. If you hold a certain set of beliefs strongly enough, you can convince yourself that the actions you are taking (no matter how objectively irrational) are the right ones. In this case, I'm sure the publishers are telling themselves that the woke stuff will bring in more new readers than it will lose old ones. I don't think it has worked out that way. I also don't expect the thinking to change. As our blog hostess suggests, the folks doing the deciding live in a bubble.
BTW,I don't "have trouble" with 2nd person perspective. I recently read a book where it was used quite successfully. I just think Jemisin failed where the other author didn't. On the other hand, I can't imagine 1st person plural ever working, though I'd love to be proven wrong.
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